Why don’t you get your facts straight instead of your ridiculous assertion the Patriots did nothing to deserve their dynasty.  I realize you hate us because we’re good, but don’t mask it with some stupid conspiracy theory which has no basis.  Keep thinking the Patriots were the only team using cameras and that it provided any advantage.  It’s sad you are so biased by your Patriot hatred you make baseless accusations.  You even said you don’t know when the videotaping began or ended, so therefore they cheated in every game? Really? That’s your logic.  I certainly hope you’re not a lawyer because you really can’t argue a point. 

You pick out one game (against the Colts) that is convenient to your argument but ignore the other ones which do no support it.  First of all Tony Dungy has been coach of the Colts for 6 seasons, not 10.  Funny how you don’t mention the Cowboys game, which was a blowout, and is a team we haven’t played since 2003 and has a different coach and a different quarterback.

You do not know when the taping began or ended.  Clearly, the commissioner of the NFL didn’t even know.  And even if it did end with the Jets incident, how many times do you need to steal a team’s signs?  The Colt, for example, have the same QB and same coach for like 10 years now…if you taped them in 2006, you could probably figure them out in 2007. 

The larger point Bigmaq is trying make, and you’d know this if you watched football before 2001, is the NFL has always tended to cover up scandals and stink when “signature” franchises are involved.  If you can’t understand why it would be in the NFL and all their TV stations’ best interests to downplay the scandal and/or cover it up, well, it must be nice to live in your world filled with cotton candy clouds and marmalade skies.

Your franchise has and will always have a tainted legacy.  Now, I’m finished discussing this with you because you clearly have red and blue blinders on and will never take them off.  Thankfully, the rest of the NFL doesn’t have to buy the load you, your team, and your team’s apologists are trying to sell us.

Well I’m going to ask you again since both of you seem to like ignoring my main points.  HOW DID THE PATRIOTS GO 16-0 WITHOUT THE AID OF VIDEO CAMERAS, WHICH ARE SUPPOSEDLY A HUGE COMPETITVE ADVANTAGE?

Oh and saying Belichick “must have learned something from Carmen P” is really not a valid point as you can only speculate a supposed friendhsip and its influence on Bill Belichick’s coaching style.   Why don’t we discuss 9/11 conspiracy theories and the magic bullet while we’re at it on this forum?

BTW if you’re trying to make it personal by trying to insult my intelligence maybe YOU should wikipedia Zabruder, because it was actually Abraham Zapruder who shot the film.  Seeing as how the ‘B’ key is not close to the ‘P’ key I think you’re the one who needs to log onto wikipedia.  And I know plenty about the tapes of Zapruder and the Watergate tapes if you’re interested but I’m sure in your narrow minded perspective you just assume anyone who differs in opinion from you (even if it’s football) must be of less intelligence.

You really are 1) naive and 2) still wet behind the ears. This is less like the Zabruder tabes and more like the Nixon tapes. (two references, Nathan, which you likely will have to do a  Wikipediea for).

Belichick and the Pats should be awarded the Eddie DeB/Niners “Bend the Rules” award for creativity. Surely, their acts of rooking the NFL are on a par with each other.

After all, Eddie and Carmen P., Eddie’s consigliere and believed mastermind behind their CAP gaming schemes, did make their bones in what was then referred to by Life Mag as  “Bomb Town USA” Youngstown. Young Bill must have learned something from Carmen P, during their shared stints in Cleveland. Interesting that the two biggest gamers of the NFL system spent some long face time together.

Also, interesting that the NFL never publicly dissed either to avoid negative PR. Sort of like banks too big to fail, the NFL would rather sweep under the rug any hints that the real “games” are played before the whistle blows. Perhaps, Bill can really follow his mentors and commit a felony involving a Mass politician and a hooker girl friend.