Comments on: Steelers Want Big Ben To Die http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/02/28/steelers-want-big-ben-to-die/ A Pittsburgh Steelers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:16:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Brian Beam http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/02/28/steelers-want-big-ben-to-die/comment-page-1/#comment-476 Brian Beam Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:59:03 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=771#comment-476 I couldnt agree with you more.  I dont quite understand the Steelers position on this, but I  really hope they will make up for it in the draft like they ALWAYS seem to do.  Have faith Steeler Nation, have faith!! I couldnt agree with you more.  I dont quite understand the Steelers position on this, but I  really hope they will make up for it in the draft like they ALWAYS seem to do.  Have faith Steeler Nation, have faith!!

]]> By: AFCN Watch: Free Agency Snapshot | Stripe Hype | A Blog For Cincinnati Fans http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/02/28/steelers-want-big-ben-to-die/comment-page-1/#comment-466 AFCN Watch: Free Agency Snapshot | Stripe Hype | A Blog For Cincinnati Fans Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:18:46 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=771#comment-466 [...] Pittsburgh, which has never been a big player in free agency, continues to maintain a low profile in ‘09. The team has yet to sign a single “outside” free agent, though between franchising Willie Colon and re-signing tackle Max Starks and guard Chris Kemoeatu, the Steelers have managed to keep their offensive line largely intact. That may or may not be a good thing, since the Pittsburgh o-line wasn’t exactly tops in the NFL last year. In fact, Chris at nicepickcowher.com writes that the retention of Kemoeatu is proof that the Steelers’ front office is trying to kill Ben Roethlisberger. [...] [...] Pittsburgh, which has never been a big player in free agency, continues to maintain a low profile in ‘09. The team has yet to sign a single “outside” free agent, though between franchising Willie Colon and re-signing tackle Max Starks and guard Chris Kemoeatu, the Steelers have managed to keep their offensive line largely intact. That may or may not be a good thing, since the Pittsburgh o-line wasn’t exactly tops in the NFL last year. In fact, Chris at nicepickcowher.com writes that the retention of Kemoeatu is proof that the Steelers’ front office is trying to kill Ben Roethlisberger. [...]

]]> By: Robyn http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/02/28/steelers-want-big-ben-to-die/comment-page-1/#comment-468 Robyn Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:20:57 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=771#comment-468 Agreed Chris.  Great coaching can only go so far.  As the old saying goes, "you can lead a lineman to the field, but you can't make him block".  Maybe I just made that up.  Agreed Chris.  Great coaching can only go so far.  As the old saying goes, “you can lead a lineman to the field, but you can’t make him block”.  Maybe I just made that up. 

]]> By: Chris http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/02/28/steelers-want-big-ben-to-die/comment-page-1/#comment-475 Chris Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:43:20 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=771#comment-475 I agree the coaching staff must shoulder part of the blame for the poor line play.  Putting players in positions to succeed despite their limitations is what a good coach is supposed to do and they don't always do that. But at the same time, intelligence is something you factor in when evaluating a player.  That's why they give the Wonderlic and other IQ type tests at the Combine.  If a guy is too stupid to learn schemes when 3 other guys mostly pick them up, that's on him.  When a kid gets an F in school, it's not always the teacher's fault;  perhaps the child is just dumb. Finally, consider this:  Russ Grimm is generally considered a great O-Line coach.  But who did he have here?  Faneca, Hartings, a healthy Marvel Smith...   All Pro Bowl caliber players.  Would he have done any better with this group?  Maybe.  Maybe not. I agree the coaching staff must shoulder part of the blame for the poor line play.  Putting players in positions to succeed despite their limitations is what a good coach is supposed to do and they don’t always do that.

But at the same time, intelligence is something you factor in when evaluating a player.  That’s why they give the Wonderlic and other IQ type tests at the Combine.  If a guy is too stupid to learn schemes when 3 other guys mostly pick them up, that’s on him.  When a kid gets an F in school, it’s not always the teacher’s fault;  perhaps the child is just dumb.

Finally, consider this:  Russ Grimm is generally considered a great O-Line coach.  But who did he have here?  Faneca, Hartings, a healthy Marvel Smith…   All Pro Bowl caliber players.  Would he have done any better with this group?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

]]> By: Chris http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/02/28/steelers-want-big-ben-to-die/comment-page-1/#comment-474 Chris Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:29:00 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=771#comment-474 So, tell us how you really feel about Kemo. I'm still not sure. Anyway, I agree with you (mostly) about Kemo, but what I saw during the season wasn't just a lack of ability on the O-Line, but what seemed to me to be a lack of understanding. I think (based on certain plays during the season) that these guys just don't know what they're doing sometimes. And that, I put on the coaching staff. So, tell us how you really feel about Kemo. I’m still not sure. Anyway, I agree with you (mostly) about Kemo, but what I saw during the season wasn’t just a lack of ability on the O-Line, but what seemed to me to be a lack of understanding. I think (based on certain plays during the season) that these guys just don’t know what they’re doing sometimes. And that, I put on the coaching staff.

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