Comments on: Week 13 Recap: Epic Fail http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/12/07/week-13-recap-epic-fail/ A Pittsburgh Steelers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:16:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Darrell http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/12/07/week-13-recap-epic-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-1202 Darrell Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:36:54 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=1999#comment-1202 Maybe Ike Taylor just plays bad in the few games I get to see the Steelers? Regardless, everyone just played bad this night. Losing to the 1-11 Browns 13-6 is just an all time low. After the game Hines said all they can do now is play for pride, I'm sorry when you lose to the browns you lose all previous pride and are stripped from gaining pride for the rest of the season. I gotta agree with you Chris, something is going on with the coaching here, these players have all proven in the past they have talent, but none of them are playing like they do. Maybe Ike Taylor just plays bad in the few games I get to see the Steelers? Regardless, everyone just played bad this night. Losing to the 1-11 Browns 13-6 is just an all time low. After the game Hines said all they can do now is play for pride, I’m sorry when you lose to the browns you lose all previous pride and are stripped from gaining pride for the rest of the season. I gotta agree with you Chris, something is going on with the coaching here, these players have all proven in the past they have talent, but none of them are playing like they do.

]]> By: JLaw http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/12/07/week-13-recap-epic-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-1192 JLaw Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:19:24 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=1999#comment-1192 Hey you forgot Larry. I'm not saying he is bad just not great. He gets some lucky breaks too though. He has a pretty good knack for not gettin flagged when he probably should. I'd just feel more comfortable with another guy like him or better that also will help light a fire in that secondary. Hey you forgot Larry. I’m not saying he is bad just not great. He gets some lucky breaks too though. He has a pretty good knack for not gettin flagged when he probably should.
I’d just feel more comfortable with another guy like him or better that also will help light a fire in that secondary.

]]> By: chris http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/12/07/week-13-recap-epic-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-1186 chris Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:57:40 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=1999#comment-1186 Darrell and JLaw, in the past two seasons, Ike Taylor has had to cover OchoCinco (4x), Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Derrick Mason (4x), Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, and Randy Moss. How many of those guys do you remember having huge games against us? Notice the next time you watch a Steelers game how at least 75% of the other team's passes are either directed down the middle of the field of toward William Gay. They stay away from Ike. Because his coverage is usually airtight. Everybody gets beat once in awhile but if you look at what the WRs he covers usually do, you'd see how much of a difference he makes. Now, I agree with JLaw, he's not a "premier" corner because his hands completely suck. If he came down with even 3 or 4 INTs a season, he'd be in the Pro Bowl every year. But he doesn't so, yeah, he's not the greatest CB in the league. But as far as a coverage goes? He's really really good. Although last week he definitely had a pretty pathetic game. Darrell and JLaw, in the past two seasons, Ike Taylor has had to cover OchoCinco (4x), Terrell Owens, Plaxico Burress, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Derrick Mason (4x), Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss, and Randy Moss. How many of those guys do you remember having huge games against us?

Notice the next time you watch a Steelers game how at least 75% of the other team’s passes are either directed down the middle of the field of toward William Gay. They stay away from Ike. Because his coverage is usually airtight. Everybody gets beat once in awhile but if you look at what the WRs he covers usually do, you’d see how much of a difference he makes.

Now, I agree with JLaw, he’s not a “premier” corner because his hands completely suck. If he came down with even 3 or 4 INTs a season, he’d be in the Pro Bowl every year. But he doesn’t so, yeah, he’s not the greatest CB in the league.

But as far as a coverage goes? He’s really really good. Although last week he definitely had a pretty pathetic game.

]]> By: chris http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/12/07/week-13-recap-epic-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-1185 chris Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:45:30 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=1999#comment-1185 KTown, I basically agree with your idea that veterans should be responsible enough to pay attention to details or show some pride and heart. However, I think you're letting the coaching staff off way too easy. The coaches, esp the head coach, has to be in control of his team. If he expects the players to entirely police themselves, he's not doing his job. Also, when a player repeatedly fails, whether they are a youngster like Gay or a vet like Farrior, the coach needs to address this. Tomlin has done nothing. As for McFadden, I've said several times I wish we still had him. He'd clearly be a massive upgrade over Gay. But when B-Mac left, I admit that I wasn't upset about it. Last year, B-Mac missed games with a broken forearm and when he came back, he rotated with Gay. Gay looked like a perfectly capable CB at the time. Obviously, he has been exposed as a fraud now that he's playing every down. But hindsight is always 20-20. KTown, I basically agree with your idea that veterans should be responsible enough to pay attention to details or show some pride and heart. However, I think you’re letting the coaching staff off way too easy. The coaches, esp the head coach, has to be in control of his team. If he expects the players to entirely police themselves, he’s not doing his job. Also, when a player repeatedly fails, whether they are a youngster like Gay or a vet like Farrior, the coach needs to address this. Tomlin has done nothing.

As for McFadden, I’ve said several times I wish we still had him. He’d clearly be a massive upgrade over Gay. But when B-Mac left, I admit that I wasn’t upset about it. Last year, B-Mac missed games with a broken forearm and when he came back, he rotated with Gay. Gay looked like a perfectly capable CB at the time.

Obviously, he has been exposed as a fraud now that he’s playing every down. But hindsight is always 20-20.

]]> By: JLaw http://nicepickcowher.com/2009/12/07/week-13-recap-epic-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-1184 JLaw Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:33:12 +0000 http://nicepickcowher.com/?p=1999#comment-1184 McFadden was alright. One of the guys who went out did his job and made occassional mistakes like everyone else. I agree Ike is not the premier cover corner that they build him up to be. They need another Woodson or Lake type leader back there to compliment Troy. He is getting older and soon a protege must emerge or we are super screwed. I'll agree that nobody on the defense seems to want to lead the guys into battle either. I'm a Farrior fan and since he is the senior man on the squad perhaps he needs to light the fire! Chris as I've mentioned I live in MO and get stuck watching the Scrams lose all the time which I enjoy seeing cause the STL bandwagon wore me out those couple of good years they had. Now it's back to grab your torch and pitchforks. Sorry I've got not much use for them. Sunday or Monday are about the only games I get to see so I look to you for the play by play. Thank you. The fish are ok but whatever drives them to at least finish with a winning record is my concern. As for the Rats, drown them at all cost. Bad enough the Bengals clinched. McFadden was alright. One of the guys who went out did his job and made occassional mistakes like everyone else. I agree Ike is not the premier cover corner that they build him up to be. They need another Woodson or Lake type leader back there to compliment Troy. He is getting older and soon a protege must emerge or we are super screwed.
I’ll agree that nobody on the defense seems to want to lead the guys into battle either. I’m a Farrior fan and since he is the senior man on the squad perhaps he needs to light the fire!
Chris as I’ve mentioned I live in MO and get stuck watching the Scrams lose all the time which I enjoy seeing cause the STL bandwagon wore me out those couple of good years they had. Now it’s back to grab your torch and pitchforks. Sorry I’ve got not much use for them. Sunday or Monday are about the only games I get to see so I look to you for the play by play. Thank you. The fish are ok but whatever drives them to at least finish with a winning record is my concern. As for the Rats, drown them at all cost. Bad enough the Bengals clinched.

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