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		<title>By: psycho4steelers</title>
		<link>http://nicepickcowher.com/2010/04/16/big-ben-whipped-it-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>psycho4steelers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon the cruel parental, &quot;what do they think&quot;....my bad. I understand the rule of punishments by teams and the NFL. I just believe a &quot;sentence&quot; imposed by the team, even with arbitration, on top of or consecutive with the NFL&#039;s would carry some weight. I know its not my money being spent on lawyers and litigation, so take it for what it is..... idiot spoutings from an irate fan. And as far as your second paragraph......I agree wholly and concur. Been working O/T so I didn&#039;t get back as soon as I&#039;d like. Thanks for waiting....
Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon the cruel parental, &#8220;what do they think&#8221;&#8230;.my bad. I understand the rule of punishments by teams and the NFL. I just believe a &#8220;sentence&#8221; imposed by the team, even with arbitration, on top of or consecutive with the NFL&#8217;s would carry some weight. I know its not my money being spent on lawyers and litigation, so take it for what it is&#8230;.. idiot spoutings from an irate fan. And as far as your second paragraph&#8230;&#8230;I agree wholly and concur. Been working O/T so I didn&#8217;t get back as soon as I&#8217;d like. Thanks for waiting&#8230;.<br />
Alan</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 09:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben&#039;s mother died in a car accident when he was a child.  I have no idea what his father&#039;s deal is but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s relevant anyway.  I&#039;m sure OJ&#039;s parents think he&#039;s a great guy, too.  Parents are just that way.

As for the punishment thing, it sort of has to be handed out by the NFL.  The NFL rules are such that if a team suspends a player, the player can appeal to an arbitrator and arbitrators always side with the player.  Michael Vick did that when the Falcons tried to take back some of his guaranteed money since he was sitting in jail and he won.  But if Goodell suspends a player, the deal with the players union is that the Commish&#039;s word is final and cannot be challenged in court.  So it&#039;s better for him to issue a punishment because then Ben has no choice.

I&#039;m obviously still not happy about that jackass being our QB but I can&#039;t really be that angry with the Rooneys.  I guess they could cut him if they REALLY were as moral as they say but that would be insanity in a business sense.  I believe they are willing to trade him so I think they are as offended as we are.  It&#039;s just they aren&#039;t willing to give him away like they did Holmes so that tells me they have morals, just that their morals only go so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben&#8217;s mother died in a car accident when he was a child.  I have no idea what his father&#8217;s deal is but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s relevant anyway.  I&#8217;m sure OJ&#8217;s parents think he&#8217;s a great guy, too.  Parents are just that way.</p>
<p>As for the punishment thing, it sort of has to be handed out by the NFL.  The NFL rules are such that if a team suspends a player, the player can appeal to an arbitrator and arbitrators always side with the player.  Michael Vick did that when the Falcons tried to take back some of his guaranteed money since he was sitting in jail and he won.  But if Goodell suspends a player, the deal with the players union is that the Commish&#8217;s word is final and cannot be challenged in court.  So it&#8217;s better for him to issue a punishment because then Ben has no choice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m obviously still not happy about that jackass being our QB but I can&#8217;t really be that angry with the Rooneys.  I guess they could cut him if they REALLY were as moral as they say but that would be insanity in a business sense.  I believe they are willing to trade him so I think they are as offended as we are.  It&#8217;s just they aren&#8217;t willing to give him away like they did Holmes so that tells me they have morals, just that their morals only go so far.</p>
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		<title>By: psycho4steelers</title>
		<link>http://nicepickcowher.com/2010/04/16/big-ben-whipped-it-out/comment-page-1/#comment-1937</link>
		<dc:creator>psycho4steelers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, one disciplinary step left before the Ben situation is laid to rest. Unlike what I said earlier, the Steelers and Rooneys chumped out. Handing down disciplinary action via the NFL is chicken S#!T. The Steelers, MY STEELERS, OUR STEELERS, had an opportunity to stand up and be a model. Instead they followed the likes of Jerry Jones and Al Davis, letting the NFL take action and calling it their own. Sad. After 30+ years of following this franchise, this remarkable franchise, I never thought that Id be embarrassed by the Rooneys. Yet here I sit, dumbfounded and a little dazed. His sentence is to run concurrent? JESUS!!!! Im no saint but tell me this. Are his parents proud of his off-field behavior? If they are Ill shut up. Somehow I doubt it. To allow this miscreant to skate by hurts. But the Rooneys are smart I guess, they know us die hards will root for the B&amp;G, buy tickets and come to watch the Team. Ben is a teammate. We will watch, root, cheer and jeer. We will scream with delight at a last minute pass T.D. and groan with a last minute sack. We are predictable. We are fans. And today I too threw up a little in my mouth.

Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, one disciplinary step left before the Ben situation is laid to rest. Unlike what I said earlier, the Steelers and Rooneys chumped out. Handing down disciplinary action via the NFL is chicken S#!T. The Steelers, MY STEELERS, OUR STEELERS, had an opportunity to stand up and be a model. Instead they followed the likes of Jerry Jones and Al Davis, letting the NFL take action and calling it their own. Sad. After 30+ years of following this franchise, this remarkable franchise, I never thought that Id be embarrassed by the Rooneys. Yet here I sit, dumbfounded and a little dazed. His sentence is to run concurrent? JESUS!!!! Im no saint but tell me this. Are his parents proud of his off-field behavior? If they are Ill shut up. Somehow I doubt it. To allow this miscreant to skate by hurts. But the Rooneys are smart I guess, they know us die hards will root for the B&amp;G, buy tickets and come to watch the Team. Ben is a teammate. We will watch, root, cheer and jeer. We will scream with delight at a last minute pass T.D. and groan with a last minute sack. We are predictable. We are fans. And today I too threw up a little in my mouth.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, steelersix.  Thank you for also reminding us about the kids.  When people say &quot;I don&#039;t expect my athletes to be role models&quot; that&#039;s fine for us adults.  But kids can&#039;t help who they look up to.  Especially kids in Pittsburgh who love their Pens and Steelers.  I grew up with two great parents who were good Catholics but nothing was going to stop me from thinking Rod Woodson was the greatest thing ever.  If he was ever accused of 1/10 of what Ben has done, I would&#039;ve been crushed.  

And that idea about sending the Rooneys his #7 jersey is brilliant.  The next time I&#039;m at the post office, I might look into a PO Box to collect unwanted Pig Ben jerseys so us true Steeler fans can initiate some sort of mass protest.  I can think of no better way for the Rooney family to be made aware of just how offended we are to have this guy representing our team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, steelersix.  Thank you for also reminding us about the kids.  When people say &#8220;I don&#8217;t expect my athletes to be role models&#8221; that&#8217;s fine for us adults.  But kids can&#8217;t help who they look up to.  Especially kids in Pittsburgh who love their Pens and Steelers.  I grew up with two great parents who were good Catholics but nothing was going to stop me from thinking Rod Woodson was the greatest thing ever.  If he was ever accused of 1/10 of what Ben has done, I would&#8217;ve been crushed.  </p>
<p>And that idea about sending the Rooneys his #7 jersey is brilliant.  The next time I&#8217;m at the post office, I might look into a PO Box to collect unwanted Pig Ben jerseys so us true Steeler fans can initiate some sort of mass protest.  I can think of no better way for the Rooney family to be made aware of just how offended we are to have this guy representing our team.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerfaninnewengland</title>
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		<dc:creator>steelerfaninnewengland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a father of a teenage girl he&#039;s lucky that wasn&#039;t my daughter as he would have a bullet in his head. A lifelong fan it is time for him to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a father of a teenage girl he&#8217;s lucky that wasn&#8217;t my daughter as he would have a bullet in his head. A lifelong fan it is time for him to go.</p>
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