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Trade Ben Roethlisberger? Would it Actually Happen?


 

Many have recently pondered whether or not be in the best interests of the Pittsburgh Steelers to trade Ben Roethlisberger during the upcoming offseason. One such person who has asked this question is Jim Wexell of SteelCityInsider.net, and Wexell’s analysis got me thinking about what it would take for the Steelers to unload their current signal-caller.

As Wexell alluded to in his article, Roethlisberger will still have two seasons left on his current deal so the potential to sign him long-term could entice quarterback-hungry teams to make wildly desperate trade packages to acquire him. Although the Steelers would not necessarily realize a huge amount of cap savings ($5.31 million), any extra room created for the cap-strapped franchise would be a positive.

Yet if Pittsburgh wanted to pull the trigger on a deal, one would have to ask the following:

 

What would be a fair asking price?

 

Well, if the Bengals squeezed a first and a second round pick out of Oakland for Carson Palmer and the Redskins dealt two first round picks and a second for “RGIII,” then Pittsburgh’s asking price should be much higher if they are indeed serious about dealing “Big Ben.”

Also, keep in mind that Palmer was on the verge of turning 32 and had not played a regular season down in close to 10 months before he was traded, and that “RGIII” had not even taken a regular season snap at the professional level at all before that trade was done.

If the Steelers want to move “Big Ben,” then their asking price should be at least three first round picks and possibly another two picks in the second, third, or fourth rounds. While the asking price might not be “Herschel Walker-massive,” the Steelers’ brass should not even listen to teams who would be unwilling to part with that type of draft pick currency if not more.

In addition to the high-but-fair asking price, the front office must also be keen on moving Roethlsiberger to an NFC franchise as opposed to one in the AFC. They can ill afford to have the future “Hall of Famer” blocking their road to future postseason berths or the Super Bowls.

Remember when the Packers unloaded Brett Favre on the Jets back in 2008? That was chiefly done so Favre would not hurt them with a team like Minnesota. Granted, Favre was dealt to Minnesota after his only season with New York, but the Packers’ brass kept that idea in mind when they sent him to the Jets.

 

Final Thoughts

If you have been unable to tell by now, I for one am totally against the franchise dealing their most important player in the form of Roethlisberger. Most of all, I hope that cool heads prevail in the front office during the winter and that the team elects to build around their veteran quarterback.

At least to me, none of the signal-callers in this upcoming draft class could adequately replace “Big Ben,” and each of them would likely get slaughtered behind the “offensive line” Pittsburgh is currently putting in front of Roethlisberger.

Marcus Mariota, Teddy Bridgewater, and Tajh Boyd might look impressive right now, but they would be running for their lives against the types of NFL pass rushers they will see. Plus, they won’t have the luxury of playing with the massive talent advantage which their teams and offenses currently possess at the college level either.

I am not saying that the Steelers have a capable replacement for Roethlisberger on their roster at the moment. They don’t. However, Pittsburgh’s brass might want to build up other areas of their team before they hand a gutted and inexperienced team over to a rookie signal-caller.

Just keep the following in mind if you are in the “Trade Roethlisberger” camp:

 

It took this franchise 20+ years to find a capable replacement for Terry Bradshaw in the form of Roethlisberger. Are you prepared to watch 20+ years of piss-poor to mediocre quarterback play if “Big Ben’s” replacement doesn’t pan out and the front office deals Roethlisberger even though he has three to five years of solid football left in him?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Gene Scala

    Big Ben isn’t going anywhere except home to his family at the end of the day. I prefer to think of the great moments these warriors have given us over the years and let the owners figure out how bad they want to win. Its never all bad or all good……………except maybe in Cleveland.

  • Justin

    I hope something can be done to turn this team around before it’s time to say good-bye to Ben (whether it’s age or due to the atrocious offensive line). Otherwise the dark days that we currently find ourselves in will get a lot darker for a lot longer. He can’t be a hero forever and it drives me insane that we’re wasting his talent right now.

  • Niyi Delano

    Another article from you i disagree with. First the steelers will never trade Ben, even though it is the smart thing to do since his contract, Just like Flaco’s is what is killing this team when it comes to keeping younger talent.

    I disagrees with your post because even though you are saying, lets get 3 first and couple of 2nds, you still feel those picks won’t bring the Steelers any good talent.

    Quick Scenario. If we traded Ben to the Jaguars, the owner wants to move team, and nothing says, i am serious about winning like getting a superbowl winning Qb when you have the cap to quickly resign him. We get 3 first and second from them. Well in this upcoming draft, we use their pick on LT Matthew from Texas A and M, with our first, i would trade down to about 15 or 16th spot. I would guess we would be picking in the top 5 the way we are playing. That should get us another 2nd or 3rd at least. Then finally with out first, we take TE, Eric Ebron from North Carolina. In the second with the pick from the jaguars i would go with Lache Seastrunk – RB- baylor. drafting him would give the steelers 1- 2 combination the Bengals have. Size with Bell, speed with Seastrunk and change of pace. With our second pick we go with QB – Aaron Murray – Georgia. if we get a second round pick from our first round trade i would look for a receiver with decent size – Wr- Brandon Coleman – Rutgers. 6-6 220lbs. Runs decent routes, uses his size to his ability and has very good speed. If we don’t get a second with that trade, but instead we got a third round pick, i would go again, WR – Jared Abbrederis -Wisconsin. Very good route runner – decent size, 6-2, 188lbs. I would like to see him add a few more pounds to that frame. He could be another Awesome version of Jody Nelson. The rest of the draft i would address the defense. Also with the fact that we would have 2 first the next 2 years, we could address the defense even more.

    The point i made there is, first, we can get a very good signal caller, surround with the the best LT in the draft, give him the best TE in the draft, get him a change of pace back, and also get him a 6-6 WR, or a 6-2 WR who runs really good route. If we took that plunge with Ben, in one draft we could drasticly change our offense for the better, and have future picks to address our porous defense. But the steelers have to pull that trigger, but it won’t happen. For a team that loves to build with the draft we are bad with trading players when we know we can’t afford them.

    • Craig

      Ben Roethlisberger ranks 9th all time in QB rating with a 92.4 in 10 seasons. That’s better than Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Brett Favre, Jim Kelly. He is tied for 12th with game winning drives (30 of them). He will be the leading franchise QB in all stats before he’s done being a Steeler. I must have forgot that it was the defense that drove down the field in less than two minutes in Super Bowl XLIII and Troy Polamalu threw the game winning touchdown to Holmes. It must be Ben’s fault why we are 2-6, not the defense giving up record points and yards to teams. What was I thinking? Yeah way too much credit for that guy. What a bum. He is infuriating to watch. So is reading your analysis.

      • Niyi Delano

        Do you watch football or do you just have blinders on? First of all, this is not baseball, stats in football are meaningless. You are comparing Ben’s stats to the stats of men that played in an era who people barely threw for 300 yards.

        Here are some stats for you, Nick Foles threw for 7 tds. Based on your logic he must be the next best thing since Ben could barely even read the Raiders defense. Every week in this league, average Qbs are doing things only done in the past by top rated qbs.

        Now back to Ben. His first superbowl, he has the worst Qb rating for any Qb who won the superbowl. He second Superbowl, defense kept us in that game, against one of the best offenses probably ever assembled in the NFL. The comebacks Ben gets credit for has more to do with our defense keeping us in games. The third superbowl, i believe he failed in his attempt to again bring the team back, after, once again the defense kept us in the game.

        Again, he currently leads all NFL teams in turnover or he is pretty close to it. Do you think that could lead to our awful record? In a three game span, Against the Jets, Ravens and Raider, before things opened up against the raiders in the second half, how many Touchdowns did Ben throw? Folks, take the Beer goggles down and truly watch BEN play.

        Again, these are facts. He doesn’t read defenses prior to the snap. he holds on to the Ball too long. Always wants to go deep, instead of taking the underneath throws. All of these have led to Turnovers and a 2-6 record. I believe even Ryan Clark (who is currently playing like crap) said Ben needs to change the way he plays. But yes, please throw some more stats at me.

        • Craig

          You also said (in an offseason post) that the zone block would be great for this team based on personnel, the type of back needed, and with the dink and dunk. How’s that working out? Hard to ‘trust’ you assessments.

          I could care less if the defense keeps games close or not when it comes to comparing QUARTERBACKS and their effectiveness. The defenses aren’t on the field to win the game at the end. Ben and his offense is, and he has proven time and time again that he can skillfully master the no-huddle and drive the offense the full length of the field to win a game. Win them all? No, and that would be stupid to even think a QB could. So, you win some and lose some. But without Ben, this team would be 0-8 and have a worse record than last season… not to mention they would not have won Super Bowl XLIII. He steps up and is the best chance for the Steelers to win games. Ryan Clark doesn’t know how to play the QB position. Hell he can’t even defend against a QB anymore so I don’t care what he has to say about Ben and his style of play. It’s been working for 9 seasons up to this point.

          Your assessment of ‘He doesn’t read defenses prior to the snap. he holds on to the Ball too long. Always wants to go deep, instead of taking the underneath throws.’ is off and subjective. If he’s so bad at reading defenses then why is he so effective at the no-huddle. Just dumb luck I guess.

          Look at guys like Manning and Brees – those guys are amazing QB’s. What is their common thread? Their teams actually build offenses around them and give them good to great O-lines to make sure they are protected and have the time to make plays. Ben doesn’t have this (I’m going to call it a luxury because this team treats it as such the way they don’t build a solid line every year). You try and be consistent when you are running for your friggin’ life every passing down.

          Ben ranks tied for 6th with five other QB’s with 9 picks. Top turnover machine is Eli Manning with 15 picks. Yeah Eli really sucks too doesn’t he. Ben has some catching up to do I guess. You are basing your overall assessment of Ben with turnovers (a stat), just like I’m defending him with (gasp) stats. Throw in your subjective opinion about his style of play and you make him out to be a worse QB than Mike Tomczak. Geesh. Get a grip.

          • Niyi Delano

            I am going to keep it simple for you. Ben is sixth in the NFL with INTS, he is 2 in the NFL with all rusher in fumbles (Thanks to ESPN STATS). 9 TDS 13 turnovers. Ben is one of the leaders in the NFL in turnovers, LIKE I STATED.

            Keep wondering why we have the record we have.

          • Dom DiTolla

            I am going to keep it simple for you too, since you are the stats wizard and are apparently the only member of “Steeler Nation” who watches games:

            32 sacks allowed (tied for second most), 28th ranked rushing game, 23rd ranked scoring defense, t-29th in sacks, t-32nd interceptions, 30th in takeaways, zero defensive touchdowns, surrendered single-game team records for points and yards.

            But yeah, the blame should be placed entirely on “Big Ben.”

        • Dom DiTolla

          You do realize that dumping Roethlisberger and sending out a rookie signal-caller behind the offensive line they currently have would be disastrous, right? Plus, who is to say that the guys they take with the picks they receive in return don’t turn out to be busts like Adams and Gilbert?

          Maybe it’s you who is wearing the blinders. Also, it’s Jake “Matthews,” not Jake “Matthew.”

          By the way, who led that 88 yard touchdown drive after the defense crapped the bed in the second half of Super Bowl XLIII? It surely wasn’t Kurt Warner.

          But hey, your comments always make me laugh so keep on coming back. :)

          • Niyi Delano

            Seriously, again, i read your blog because for some reason SI links to it, but there is a reason why it is called a blog, you state your opinions without looking at facts.

            In the superbowl where Ben came back, do you remember the defense who crapped the Bed take a 99 yard int for a TD. They score right there and we lose that superbowl. On the first drive Ben played well, and then stunk up the bed for most of the Game until the last drive. But it is easy for everyone to remember the last drive. I choose to remember the whole game.

            Also thanks for adding the “S” at the end of Matthews for me. lol

            Also, again, for someone who claims to know anything, our O-Line is not as bad as what we see on TV. A real reporter goes back and watch a game after it is over and then make unbiased reports on it. Something you only dream off. The Tribune, just like myself, thanks to my NFL rewind, showed against the Jets, all the sacks Ben received well his fault. Even against the patriot few of the sacks were due to the play been predicated on Ben making a quick pass, and both tackles went for low blocks, but Lord Ben held on to the ball, he gets sack and people like yourself take the easy route and say, OUR O LINE IS GARBAGE. lol

            Lord Ben is currently ranked sixth in the NFL with 9 ints, thanks to ESPN since NFL stats has it wrong, he is ranked 2 for all rushers with 4 fumbles. 9 TDS, 13 Turnovers. But yes lets keep pretending our 2-6 record isn’t directly linked to his horrid play. Some of these turnovers happened in the opponents redzone or put them in our ours.

            Again, rookie QBs are coming into this league more prepared than ever to run NFL offenses, and we need a mainstay on the Left side, and Matthews is the real Deal. No one gets to Manziel on the left side because of him. If we get him, we can begin a new build but we have to dump our ridiculous overpaid QB who has continued to show his poor offseason routine, his lack of pre snap defensive reads and the lack of taking the short game when its there to keep extending the play prevents us from keeping young talent that goes to other teams.

            But i will await your un-baised LOL opinion. lol

          • Craig

            I can’t really respect anyone’s opinion who says that our O-line isn’t that bad. Keep smoking the same crack that Todd Haley is. You must be on the ‘cusp’ of something, buddy.

            Yawn. It’s getting late. Time for the whiney troll to go to bed and find another site to whine about.

          • Niyi Delano

            Every time i state facts, you come back with insults, but according to you i am the troll. When you state your fact, i debunk it.

            first you went to Ben’s stats, comparing him to the greats, I debunked it by telling you, the NFL today is a joke compared to the NFL 20 years ago. Back then, it was a rarity to throw for 300 yards, now every dick tom and harry throws for 300 plus each week.

            Then you said Our defense and O line is the problem not Ben. again i debunked you. By taking fact about the O line and Ben holding the ball too long when the play calls for quick release or the fact that he doesn’t read the defense before each snap, which doesn’t allow him to recognize the on-accounted defender and then change his receivers route. The first sack against the Bears, which ended up being a sack fumble was exactly that ( another fact).

            I stated Ben is one of the leaders in Turnovers in the NFL, you said false, then you added some rambling about Eli Manning, whose poor play is the reason why his team also only has 2 wins. i stated facts about Ben being number 6 with all QBs with 9 ints, and 2 with all rushers with 4 fumbles. Something you wouldn’t want for someone who command our offense and get more than 10 percent of the Steelers salary cap.

            Yes, i am the troll, because troll usually state facts. but please, you and Tom, who wrote this blog don’t like it when people actually know more than you and actually state facts.

            I actually believe it might be easier to teach calculus to a person with an IQ below 20 than explaining why the steelers need to trade ben now and move on since you guys watch steeler games with your Ben goggles on. Thats fine since that is the true definition of fan, a fanatic who can’t see beyond their fandom. I use to be the same way, until i became objective about everything i watch on the field. To help me, since i live in TN, i got the Sunday ticket, and the NFL rewind. with both, it allows me to be a better football fan and it allows me to actually see whats going on the field instead of believing people like TOM, who chooses to use the easy route when ever he writes a steeler blog.

            Lets blame coaches, defense, running game, O line. What ever, actually watch the game, rewind each play, see who screwed up and then make your objective decision. Based on all the garbage you and TOM have said in response to my post, it shows, you folks do neither of that and thats fine, but don’t call someone a troll when they actually state facts to you, because then it makes you seem like a petulant (childishly sulky or bad-tempered) person who can’t accept facts when they are wrong. Firgured i save you some time on that.

            Good day guys, i will live your minds as warped as i found it.

          • Dom DiTolla

            …and the stupidity and ignorance from you continues :)

            Well I watch an re-watch the games too with NFL Rewind and the offensive line is as bad as advertised. Do you watch how many sacks Roethlisberger escapes on a weekly basis because he has piss-poor pass-protection? I guess those flailing efforts and illustrations of poor footwork and a lack of overall talent up front are his fault though. The team ranks 28th in rushing yards per game and has allowed 332 sacks.

            This team is 2-6 not solely because of Roethlisberger. Are some of those mistakes his fault? Absolutely. I have not absolved Roethlisberger for his poor play, and putting words in my mouth does you no good.

            Yet it looks like someone doesn’t understand what an unbiased opinion is though.

            Was Ben the reason the defense gave up 55 points? Did he surrender 610 yards to New England? Was he losing at the point of attack like the offensive linemen were on a consistent basis? Did he appear to quit on certain plays towards the end of the game? No, I didn’t think so either.

            The defense is being picked apart due to a lack of talent and the familiarity of Dick LeBeau’s defensive scheme, and Big Ben has nothing to do with either of those. Maybe if the defense wasn’t ranked 31st in rushing yards allowed, 23rd in points per game allowed, or 30th in takeaways forced and pulled their weight too then the Steelers wouldn’t be 2-6.

            I choose to remember the entire Super Bowl XLIII win as well. I remember Arizona’s offense, led by Todd Haley, playing too conservative in the first 25:00 minutes before realizing they could exploit Pittsburgh’s weak secondary. I also remember the second half as well when the defense crapped the bed and almost squandered a 13 point lead. But that wouldn’t be unbiased, would it?

            Also, do you know about Ben’s “poor offseason routine?” Are you in training camp? Do you have access to his workouts? Looks like an unbiased opinion there. Lol. Also, I’m sure Ben wouldn’t have to “extend” as many plays if his pass-protection didn’t consistently break down.

            Also, the talent is on other teams because other underachieving veterans eat up the salary cap as well. Do they eat up as much of the cap? No. But when was the last time LaMarr Woodley made a game-changing play?